"Eastern regions of Ukraine unacceptable current parliamentary decisions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=MyQeXpcXIFI
Eastern regions of Ukraine 's leaders , who have remained loyal to President Viktor Yanukovich, challenging the legitimacy of the national parliament and claims sovereignty over their territories, reports Reuters. Over the past 24 hours the Verkhovna Rada adopted a number of laws that limit presidential powers and opens the way for a unity government and early presidential elections.
"We are not going to split the country . We want to save it , " - said Mikhail Dobkinas , Kharkov region governor , regional leaders meeting in Kharkov on Saturday.
However, the resolution adopted at the meeting , stated that "the decisions of the Ukrainian parliament in such circumstances raises doubts as to their ( ... ) legality .
The resolution also states that " the main body in the country paralyzed . While the legitimacy of the constitutional order and will not restore ( ... ), we decided to take responsibility for the constitutional order, legality , civil rights and the safety of your storage areas .
This conference had a participation of some 3000 deputies and representatives of the authorities; mostly those from the Lugansk, Donetsk, Kharkov and Crimean regions. There were also representatives from Dnepropetrovsk and probably other Eastern regions too.
Representatives from the Russian government and in particular Russian regions were there too; among them:
Duma committee head for international affairs Alexey Pushkov,
Consul of the Russian Federation in Kharkov
A senator from the Pskov region
Governors of the Bryansk, Belgorod, Rostov and Voronezh regions.
In addition to that, some +10,000 people gathered outside and all the proceedings inside the conference were transmitted to them via the video billboard that this video was filmed off.
A +30,000 Euro-Maidan march was taking place in Kharkov at the same time, not too far away (can't confirm these figures though, could have been less of them)
Much was said:
- In Kiev it wasn't the state that was taken over, but territory
- Mobs and armed extremists took over the organs of state power in Kiev
- This conference is not for the division of the Ukraine, but for it's salvation
- Ukrainian SBU (intelligence) attempted to call this conference as evidence of illegal separatist activities, before it even began and anything was said at all
- Kutuzov may have given up Moscow, but he marched into Paris later
- Something about the nazis and our grandfathers during WW2, etc... etc...
- Gennady Kernes; mayor of Kharkov: "I'm not afraid of threats, and I will stay at my workplace" (reports say he took the first plane to Russia along with Kharkov's governor as soon as this conference ended Shocked)
Right at the end all participants of the conference unanimously approved a resolution, calling for Eastern regions to take all local power into their own hands and institute self-rule (effectively ignoring the 'new government' in Kiev) - until such time as the constitutional crisis in the country has been resolved.
Amongst the text of this resolution:
- Unlawful armed formations didn't give up their arms, but continued to take over the organs of state power in Kiev, kill innocent people and LEOs
- Central organs are paralyzed
- We decided to take all responsibility for the security and rights of our citizens, as well as the upholding of constitutional order on our territory
Delegates also called for:
- Local police units to co-operate closely with the local regional authorities
- Local military units to remain in place, at their current locations, secure the caches of ammunition & weapons, and not to interfere in any conflicts.
- The people to self-organise in co-ordination with their local law enforcement units
Apparently some pro-Russian deputies are complaining that the conference was all talk, no action. Or something like that.
An interesting thing, towards the end a man shouted to be allowed to have his say (he's the most energetic and loud one, in plain clothes - about 15-20 mins before the end of the video). He was allowed up on stage for a 3 minute speech. Apparently he's some sort of ex-Soviet officer.
- Any day, tanks, armoured vehicles, etc... could enter Kharkov; ordered here by the new government in Kiev - and overthrow the regional government and repress the will of the local people
- There could be fighting, warfare, etc...
- We need to organise military units, companies, battalions and prepare for resistance
- All men among you, all former officers and servicemen of the Soviet army, I congratulate you on your coming holiday (23rd of February, former day of the Soviet army, now it's the day of Fefender of the Fatherland in Russia); and I also call on all of you to assemble in front of the central military commission in Kharkov tomorrow for organisation and instruction.
.http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=MyQeXpcXIFI
Eastern regions of Ukraine 's leaders , who have remained loyal to President Viktor Yanukovich, challenging the legitimacy of the national parliament and claims sovereignty over their territories, reports Reuters. Over the past 24 hours the Verkhovna Rada adopted a number of laws that limit presidential powers and opens the way for a unity government and early presidential elections.
"We are not going to split the country . We want to save it , " - said Mikhail Dobkinas , Kharkov region governor , regional leaders meeting in Kharkov on Saturday.
However, the resolution adopted at the meeting , stated that "the decisions of the Ukrainian parliament in such circumstances raises doubts as to their ( ... ) legality .
The resolution also states that " the main body in the country paralyzed . While the legitimacy of the constitutional order and will not restore ( ... ), we decided to take responsibility for the constitutional order, legality , civil rights and the safety of your storage areas .
This conference had a participation of some 3000 deputies and representatives of the authorities; mostly those from the Lugansk, Donetsk, Kharkov and Crimean regions. There were also representatives from Dnepropetrovsk and probably other Eastern regions too.
Representatives from the Russian government and in particular Russian regions were there too; among them:
Duma committee head for international affairs Alexey Pushkov,
Consul of the Russian Federation in Kharkov
A senator from the Pskov region
Governors of the Bryansk, Belgorod, Rostov and Voronezh regions.
In addition to that, some +10,000 people gathered outside and all the proceedings inside the conference were transmitted to them via the video billboard that this video was filmed off.
A +30,000 Euro-Maidan march was taking place in Kharkov at the same time, not too far away (can't confirm these figures though, could have been less of them)
Much was said:
- In Kiev it wasn't the state that was taken over, but territory
- Mobs and armed extremists took over the organs of state power in Kiev
- This conference is not for the division of the Ukraine, but for it's salvation
- Ukrainian SBU (intelligence) attempted to call this conference as evidence of illegal separatist activities, before it even began and anything was said at all
- Kutuzov may have given up Moscow, but he marched into Paris later
- Something about the nazis and our grandfathers during WW2, etc... etc...
- Gennady Kernes; mayor of Kharkov: "I'm not afraid of threats, and I will stay at my workplace" (reports say he took the first plane to Russia along with Kharkov's governor as soon as this conference ended Shocked)
Right at the end all participants of the conference unanimously approved a resolution, calling for Eastern regions to take all local power into their own hands and institute self-rule (effectively ignoring the 'new government' in Kiev) - until such time as the constitutional crisis in the country has been resolved.
Amongst the text of this resolution:
- Unlawful armed formations didn't give up their arms, but continued to take over the organs of state power in Kiev, kill innocent people and LEOs
- Central organs are paralyzed
- We decided to take all responsibility for the security and rights of our citizens, as well as the upholding of constitutional order on our territory
Delegates also called for:
- Local police units to co-operate closely with the local regional authorities
- Local military units to remain in place, at their current locations, secure the caches of ammunition & weapons, and not to interfere in any conflicts.
- The people to self-organise in co-ordination with their local law enforcement units
Apparently some pro-Russian deputies are complaining that the conference was all talk, no action. Or something like that.
An interesting thing, towards the end a man shouted to be allowed to have his say (he's the most energetic and loud one, in plain clothes - about 15-20 mins before the end of the video). He was allowed up on stage for a 3 minute speech. Apparently he's some sort of ex-Soviet officer.
- Any day, tanks, armoured vehicles, etc... could enter Kharkov; ordered here by the new government in Kiev - and overthrow the regional government and repress the will of the local people
- There could be fighting, warfare, etc...
- We need to organise military units, companies, battalions and prepare for resistance
- All men among you, all former officers and servicemen of the Soviet army, I congratulate you on your coming holiday (23rd of February, former day of the Soviet army, now it's the day of Fefender of the Fatherland in Russia); and I also call on all of you to assemble in front of the central military commission in Kharkov tomorrow for organisation and instruction.
A Russian government official has revealed that Russia would be willing to fight a war over the Crimea region of Ukraine and protect the large Russian population and its military assets there.
"If Ukraine breaks apart, it will trigger a war," the unnamed official told the Financial Times.
"They will lose Crimea first [because] we will go in and protect [it], just as we did in Georgia," the official continued.
Russian President Vladimir Putin has been publicly restrained about the Ukraine and sent Vladimir Lukin, a former diplomat and human rights commissioner, to Kiev as a mediator.
But analysts have pointed to the possibility of a repetition of the 2008 Georgia conflict when Russian troops and tanks invaded after the Georgian government launched an attack on the separatist region of South Ossetia. One hundred and fifty people died in the Russian action.
Russia is one of the few countries in the world to officially recognise the independence of South Ossetia and Abkhazia, and would be likely do so with the Crimea region should Ukraine divide.
The speaker of the Crimea parliament, Volodymyr Konstantinov, suggested that the Russian-majority region might secede from Ukraine if it splits in the event of a civil war.
"It is possible, if the country breaks apart. And everything is moving towards that," he told Russian news agency Interfax.
Ukraine's western region of Lviv has already reportedly declared independence from the central government.
Ukraine is a nation torn between Russia and the European Union, situated at the heart of the "shared neighbourhood" between the two blocs.
Approximately 21% of Ukraine's population is Russian and it holds deep cultural and historical links with modern Russia because of its Soviet history.
The region of Crimea lies on the northern coast of the Black Sea. Russia's massive Black Sea Fleet is stationed at Sevastopol and 60% of the region's population are ethnic Russians.
The Russian elite views Ukraine as part of the Soviet "sphere of influence" and sees the country as a potential bulwark against the growth of EU liberalisation.
"We will not allow Europe and the US to take Ukraine from us. The states [are] of the former Soviet Union, we are one family," a foreign policy official told the FT.
"They think Russia is still as weak as in the early 1990s but we are not."
Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych has claimed a deal to resolve Ukraine's political crisis has been reached with pro-European opposition leaders after the bloodiest day in the country's history since the Soviet era and footage emerging of government snipers firing on unarmed protesters.
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The Georgian "friends" they dont forget the guns and missiles sent from Viktor Yushchenko to Saakashvili ... see the flags.. ?
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The Georgian "friends" they dont forget the guns and missiles sent from Viktor Yushchenko to Saakashvili ... see the flags.. ?
KIEV 23/2/2014
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